Episode 5 - The Power of PEMFs in Revolutionary Cancer Care with Dr. William Pawluk, MD, MSc

00:00 Introduction to the Dangers of Common Pain Medications
00:18 Welcome to The Beljanski Cancer Talk Show
00:22 Meet Dr. Pawluk: A Pioneer in PEMF Therapy
01:43 Dr. Pawluk’s Journey from Conventional Medicine to PEMF
03:52 The Science and Evolution of Magnetic Field Therapy
08:05 Understanding Electromagnetic Fields and Their Impact
12:53 The Healing Power of Pulsed Electromagnetic Fields
19:50 Practical Insights: Using Magnetic Therapy at Home
21:44 Discovering Natural Cancer Cures with Sylvie Beljanski
22:35 Navigating the Confusing World of PEMF
23:29 Understanding PEMF for Cancer Treatment
23:57 Choosing the Right PEMF Device
25:05 The Importance of Magnetic Field Intensity in Cancer Therapy
27:34 Personalizing PEMF Therapy for Cancer
31:28 The Synergy of PEMF with Conventional and Alternative Therapies
34:38 The Economic Realities of Cancer Treatment
36:25 Maximizing the Benefits of PEMF Therapy
38:51 Measuring the Impact of PEMF Therapy
40:41 Concluding Remarks and Resources

Introduction to the Dangers of Common Pain Medications

Dr. William Pawluk: 30,000 people a year die from using ibuprofen or drugs like narcotics and the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories. 30,000 a year die from that.

 

Welcome to the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show

Victor Dwyer: Welcome to today’s episode of the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show.

 

Meet Dr. Pawluk: A Pioneer in PEMF Therapy

Victor Dwyer: In this episode titled The Power of PEMFs in Revolutionary Cancer Care, Sylvie and I are honored to welcome the foremost authority on Pulse Electromagnetic Field Therapy in North America, especially for holistic pain management, healing, and regeneration, Dr. Pawluk.

With a rich background that includes positions at Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland, Dr. Pawluk’s expertise spans across family medicine, acupuncture, homeopathy, and more, with a special focus on PEMFs for over 30 years.

Dr. Pawluk is not only an esteemed practitioner, but also an author of pivotal books like ‘Power Tools for Health’ and ‘Supercharge Your Health with PEMF Therapy’.

His work, recognized by ACIM Lifetime Achievement Award in 2019, has made significant contributions to the field of holistic medicine, including the appearance on Dr. Oz and hosting the Pain Solution Summit. Today, he’s here to share his invaluable insights on PEMF therapy and holistic health.

Victor Dwyer: Dr. Pawluk, thank you so much for joining today. I’d love to hear more about yourself and so we can get into EMFs and PEMFs.

Dr. William Pawluk: Well, I’m glad to be here and have a chance to share with you and your listeners and your tribe. Glad to help.

Victor Dwyer: Yeah. Yeah. Please give us a little intro about yourself. Love to hear it.

 

Dr. Pawluk’s Journey from Conventional Medicine to PEMF

Dr. William Pawluk: So basically, as a, I’m a former family physician.

Well, I am a family physician by background. I’ve been practicing family medicine for 40, 50 years. I’m dating myself now. And I’ve been doing holistic medicine for like the past 20 years. I guess the reason that we’re, we’re here talking is we’re talking about my favorite topic which is magnetic field therapy, and I’ve been working with magnetic field therapies for about 30 years, a little over 30 years now.

So the question becomes, why, why, why would a, a conventional medical doctor trained in conventional medicine. be doing magnetic field therapy? Well, the answer is actually very simple. So, I was a Medical Director and a chief of family medicine for a group of family physicians in the northeast of the US.

I built a, grew from zero, myself being the first one, a group of 14 family physicians, so the biggest family physician medical group on the whole east coast of the U. S. And we all shared patients, we rounded in the hospital on patients, and within a very short period of time, we had two people who got admitted to the hospital for gastric bleeding.

One of them almost died. And, and the common denominator for those individuals was ibuprofen. So, they were on chronic ibuprofen for pain. So I said, well, this is, this is the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, not expecting negative results, as opposed to positive results.

So I, I paraphrased Einstein. So what happens is that, I said, well, this is crazy, I have to do something different outside the house of medicine. I couldn’t do what, what everybody else around me was doing in medicine to deal with pain. That included narcotics and the non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, which cause lots of gastric distress.

30,000 people a year die from using ibuprofen, or drugs like that. 30,000 a year die from that. So, this is like, again, insanity. I said, well, what can we do different to manage pain that didn’t create that risk for people? We were killing people for their pain management. Again, that’s, that’s a form of insanity.

 

The Science and Evolution of Magnetic Field Therapy

Dr. William Pawluk: So, I decided to go outside the House of Medicine and I decided to study acupuncture. So, I spent two years looking, learning acupuncture. And I became, basically, recognized in acupuncture, qualified in acupuncture. But that was 19, that was 2020. No, I’m sorry, 1990, 1990. I apologize, time flies. 1990s, people said, what’s acupuncture?

Right, stay away from me with those needles. Right, not until Madonna was in the movies and then Madonna had all these acupuncture needles on her back. They said, oh, well, then acupuncture is okay. If Madonna did it, it’s okay. So, I couldn’t do acupuncture with needles. So, I had to find a different way to do acupuncture without using needles, and I discovered magnets.

So, in the Orient and the Eastern Asia or Western Asia, they were using magnetic fields or magnets on acupuncture points. And I said, well, what’s this? Why does this work? How could this possibly work? Given what I knew about. Qigong and Qi and acupuncture and those principles and philosophies.

Well, as I dug into it, I began to discover there was relatively little science about it, but it worked. Magnets on acupuncture points worked. So why would magnets on acupuncture points work? I mean, they shouldn’t really work. There’s no really good reason for it. It’s not acupuncture needles. As I dug into the science, I began to realize that they have other effects other than acupuncture.

That was, they had healing effects on the tissues directly. Magnets can heal the tissues. Acupuncture needles didn’t. Acupuncture needles treated the points, but they didn’t treat the underlying conditions. So, so, basically magnetic field therapy began to show it had different promise, had different potential benefits over and above acupuncture.

And I began to work with a doctor from Eastern Europe, and he introduced me to his research on magnetic fields. So he’s an MD PhD from the Czech Republic, and he shared with me a manuscript of all these Eastern European studies that have been done over 30 years. So, I was coming at this now already for a legacy of 30 years of research of magnetic field therapy.

And so now I finally have the science. Here’s the science about how magnetic fields work in the body. And there are tons of studies that showed all the different things that they could do in the body beyond the acupuncture needles and points. So, that basically just blew open the gates and you know, I published my first book, then called ‘Magnetic Therapy in Eastern Europe: A Review of 30 Years of Research’. So, now we have the science for why and how and all the different things that magnetic fields could do. So, I began to work more extensively with magnetic fields. did work for about 15 years. I finally published my next book which was called ‘Power Tools for Health.’ In that book, I have 500 references, over 500 references.

The study, the research on magnetic field therapy, in general, is spread all over the place and it’s often in obscure journals. It’s not in the mainstream journal. It’s not the Journal of the American Medical Association, of the New England Journal of Medicine. It’s in obscure journals. So, you have to pull all that information together and I was actually able to get my hands on about 30,000 abstracts on a library, essentially, of abstracts on how magnetic fields affect the body.

Again, another major milestone is increasing the science and the availability. This library that I have, this 30,000 abstract library is not available anywhere else. Nobody can find it. So, one of these days I’ll probably have to end up sharing it and provide a legacy system for all the stuff that the, again, Eastern Europeans were doing.

And they were often the studies and the research was often showing up in conferences. So, it was showing up in abstracts and presentations and so on. It was not showing up in the literature. So, that library becomes a really crazy important research, resource for magnetic therapies.

 

Understanding Electromagnetic Fields and Their Impact

Victor Dwyer: So, question, when it comes down to magnetic therapy for the people that are very, very service level, can you go into a little bit about what are the, like benefits?

Like, first of all, let’s go into, actually, let’s take a step back. Let’s go through exactly what electromagnetic means, like, for someone that doesn’t know a lot about that. Like, how do you explain electromagnetic fields and how does that impact the body? I love to hear that.

Sylvie Beljanski: And I would like to add, many people when they think electromagnetic, they think of their mobile phone.

So, how is that different from what we are being told? Stay away at least at night from the mobile phone and so on. How come something which is perceived as negative and possibly induce cancer can become a therapy.

Dr. William Pawluk: Critical question, and that’s the elephant in the room today. It was not the elephant in the room 20 years ago, but it is the elephant in the room today.

We have to go back to basic principles. The electromagnetic force is the second force in the universe. It’s the second force. There’s a strong force, the weak force, and gravity. Those are the other forces. The biggest force of all is electromagnetic. Light is electromagnetic. Color is electromagnetic. The sun is electromagnetic.

So everything around us, life, basically the basis of life is electromagnetic. That means that anywhere that there, there is charge or energy, there is electro, and every time there’s charge or energy, there’s magnetic component to it. You cannot separate the two. They go hand in hand. So a current flowing down a wire has an electromag, has a magnetic field around it. They’re inseparable.

So the question becomes, how could it harm or how could it help? Because it’s electromagnetic, anything, everything, everything in our body is electromagnetic. Our body’s not chemistry, it’s not tissue, it’s electromagnetic. The electromagnetics allows sodium and chloride to dock together to form salt.

If the electromagnetics doesn’t agree with it, it can’t happen. It controls everything. It controls the essence of life. So, that said, then how can we, how can we use this, actually, to enhance life? Now, the electromagnetic force is not positive or negative. It is the, it’s a fact of life. But we can design it, we can shift it, we can manipulate it to do good or bad.

Now, cell phones, to go back to that question, is a form of electromagnetic. But the cell phone then basically is designed for communication. It’s not designed for therapy, right? Because it’s designed for communication, it’s going to be optimized for communication. The body happens to stand in the way, and that could be good or bad.

Actually, we use that level of magnetic energy, electromagnetic energy to actually burn warts, or to cauterize bleeding in the body, or to destroy tumors or cancer. So we can use that negative force, “negative” in a sense, the destructive force, in a positive way as well. But EMFs are basically, because they’re ubiquitous and they’re everywhere, we have to understand how they affect biology.

And essentially, because we’re, we don’t control them, it’s very hard to hide from them. But the reason electromagnetic, this EMF stuff, I call environmental magnetic fields, can be negative is because the wavelengths are extraordinarily short. So, very short wavelengths are absorbed by the body.

That’s the principle behind a microwave oven. You put something in the oven, you turn it on, and it’s bombarded by microwaves. Those microwaves are absorbed by whatever’s in there, and cooks it. Well, that’s what happens with a cell phone to your ear. You put a cell phone to your ear, you take the cell phone away, the ear is pink, is red. Your ear was getting cooked.

Sylvie Beljanski: And so your brain, which was almost fried.

Dr. William Pawluk: And well, your brain was getting warmed up as well, but the wavelengths go off very rapidly. So, from the ear to the brain, certainly to the center of the brain, is a big distance for an electromagnetic field that’s very short wavelengths. So, again, designed for different purposes, and our exposure to those is, again, it’s everywhere, it’s all the time, but usually it’s not enough dose. The dose is not high enough to really be like a microwave oven where we’re cooking, right? But those are negative fields.

 

The Healing Power of Pulsed Electromagnetic Fields

Dr. William Pawluk: PEMFs, Pulsed Electromagnetic Fields, are designed as part of the electromagnetic spectrum, are a very different design. So, cell phones are bombarded into the environment. They’re broadcast, like radio waves, and radar, and television waves.

They’re broadcast into the environment. They go on forever. So that’s called open loop. It’s an open loop. Now, a current flowing through a wire, still part of the same principle, electromagnetic. Current flowing through a wire produces a magnetic field that’s perpendicular to the current. That’s called the right hand rule.

And so what happens is every time the current pulses, Every pulse produces a magnetic field. As soon as the pulse dies down, the magnetic field collapses on itself. Every pulse of the magnetic field produces, a pulse of the current produces a magnetic field. Now that magnetic field goes into the body and then comes right back down to the wire.

Goes into the body and comes back down into the wire. So the stronger the magnetic field, the bigger it is and the deeper it goes, the farther it goes before it collapses back down again. That’s called a closed magnetic pulse.

Sylvie Beljanski: And this kind of pulse, magnetic pulse?

Dr. William Pawluk: That’s a pulse. It’s a magnetic pulse.

Sylvie Beljanski: Yes. Okay.

Dr. William Pawluk: We need to follow the current. So, the magnetic pulses that we’re talking about that are beneficial for the body are controlled. They’re pulsed.

Sylvie Beljanski: They’re what?

Dr. William Pawluk: They’re controlled.

Sylvie Beljanski: Ah, controlled. Okay, yes.

Dr. William Pawluk: You control the intensity, you control the frequency of the pulsing and so on, the rate of the pulsing. And so what they’re, they’ve been, what we’re doing with them is we’ve designed them to help the body.

They’re designed for healing. Every time a pulse goes into the body, a magnetic pulse goes into the body, It’s like there was no body there. I’ve done experiments with this, where you take a melon, or a chunk of meat, and you pass a magnetic field through it, and you measure it, and you remove the chunk of meat, and you pass the magnetic field through the space, there’s no difference. To a magnetic field, the body does not exist.

Sylvie Beljanski: So how is it, how can it be healing if it doesn’t exist?

Dr. William Pawluk: Well, that’s a correct, that’s an important question. Thank you for the lead in. So, what happens is that because it’s passing through the body, think of it this way, a magnetic field is like the wind in the trees. You can’t see it, right? How do you know it’s there?

Sylvie Beljanski: You’re feeling it.

Dr. William Pawluk: Because the leaves are moving. The branches are moving. The tree is swaying. So, the magnetic field is interacting with the tree and the branches and, basically, life in general. And that’s how you know it’s there. So a magnetic field to the body is basically like air in the trees.

So, as it’s passing into the body, it interacts electromagnetic. It interacts with all the electrical stuff that’s in the body. The magnetic field now is interacting with everything electrical in the body. An ion is, every cell in the body, every molecule in the body, has charge to it, positive and negative, and every ion interacts with every other ion.

All the tissues and all the cells and all the chemicals in the body are constantly, constantly interacting. And those forces of interaction are controlled by the magnetic field. So the magnetic field guides the forces of action. And they’re amplified when you stimulate those ions. So if you have elect, so the body is not water.

The body is electrolyte soup, right? It’s not saline. It’s electrolyte soup. So our bodies are essentially batteries. And as you pass the magnetic field through those electrolytes, they’re stimulated, they’re activated, and they produce more energy. And when you produce more energy, the body then has more energy to do the work it needs to do.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay. So it’s, kind of, supports of all the lymphatic system and, and detoxification systems and the immune system and all that gets amplified.

Dr. William Pawluk: Everything in the body, everything in the body. So in my first book, Power Tools for Health, I outlined 25 different actions of magnetic fields in the body. And there are more.

But if you understand those actions, anything that the magnetic field then is activating in the body is activating essentially everything. Anything in the body that’s electromagnetic is activated.

Sylvie Beljanski: But, but how do you know that it is selective for the good and that, the, what is maybe going wrong in the body is not also amplified?

Dr. William Pawluk: Ah, very, very good question. Because we don’t have to worry about frequencies, especially very high frequencies. The body will take from the magnetic field what it wants. The body decides. So, unless the magnetic field is extraordinarily powerful, like an EM pulse from a nuclear bomb, right? Unless it’s that extraordinarily powerful, it’s not going to harm the body.

The body shrugs off and sheds off the reactions. So if I go like this, well I’ll give you an example, think about it this way. If I just touch my fingers, or my fingers to my hand, a very light touch, I can feel it. What’s going to happen? The body’s going to say, oh, my hand was touched. I slap my hand. Now I touch my hand, but I’m also hurting it because I’m slapping it.

So, the magnetic fields that we’re talking about are designed not to slap the body so much as they are to co, coax the body, to shift the body to certain directions because of the inc, because simply because of the increase of energy. So, unless you’re generating a huge amount of energy in the body, almost all other energies are basically going to be controlling the natural systems of the body.

So, in my 30 years of work with magnetic field therapy, it’s very hard to do harm. When we run into harm, the risk of harm in the body is that we’re doing too much too fast.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay.

Dr. William Pawluk: We’re pushing the body to do, to react too strong. And then the body’s gonna say, wait a minute, wait a minute, I don’t want to deal with this.

So, you can increase pain, you can create some dizziness, you can cause headaches. So, we now have devices that are FDA approved called transcranial magnetic stimulation. So, the earth’s mag, put it into perspective, the earth’s magnetic field is half a gauss, so half, so 0.5 gauss is G A U S S. That’s the measure of the magnetic field intensity.

The Earth’s magnetic field is about half a gauss. So we live in a cocoon, a magnetic cocoon, that’s already half a gauss.

Sylvie Beljanski: Practically, how, how does that happen?

 

Practical Insights: Using Magnetic Therapy at Home

Sylvie Beljanski: How, what happens to somebody who is interested in this kind of therapy? How do they go along to, for a session? What does it look like? What is the experience?

Dr. William Pawluk: Or somebody with a magnetic device.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay, but can you tell, tell us more?

Dr. William Pawluk: We’re gonna get there.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay.

Dr. William Pawluk: You’re jumping to the end. We want to go to the end now, or do you want to know why?

Sylvie Beljanski: Yeah, I want to know exactly what, what happens to the people you are speaking, you know, of the possible side effects. I would like to know the process of how is it going to happen, to the session itself, practically.

Dr. William Pawluk: All right. So if you buy yourself a magnetic device, and you can buy them online anywhere.

Sylvie Beljanski: What does it look like?

Dr. William Pawluk: There’s all kinds of appearances. We go to DrPawluk.com, there are boxes, all kinds of machines that have, that produce electrical current and that current flows down a wire.
I don’t happen to have one here with me. I didn’t know that we needed to do that demonstration. But basically, if you have a box that produces a cart, let’s say let’s say, I, what’s a good example of that? Well, even if

Sylvie Beljanski: You mean this is something people can do at home?

Dr. William Pawluk: It’s not advisable, but yes.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay.

Dr. William Pawluk: As most of the things people are going to do at home are not going to be the right kinds of equipment.

Sylvie Beljanski: So, how do you advise people to.. What do you advise people to do if they are interested in this kind of therapy?

Dr. William Pawluk: Go to my website, drpawluk.com

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay, but I’m in New York and you are in Arizona?

Dr. William Pawluk: No, no, no, I’m in Maryland, but, but you can go, you can go to drpawluk. com and it’ll give you information about all this. And it’ll show you kinds of devices that you can get.

 

Navigating the Confusing World of PEMF

Dr. William Pawluk: If you go on the internet and you do PEMF, just do a search on PMF on the internet, you’ll be very confused because there are lots of people making all kinds of machines and they’re making all kinds of claims.

And if you don’t know, if you don’t read, if you don’t read my book or my books, You’ll be very confused because it’s all over the place. It’s the wild, wild West, magnetic field therapy is the wild, wild West. And one of the reasons…

Victor Dwyer: Okay, so, pretend, pretend that I am the person, okay. I’m interested in PEMFs. Okay. And let’s say I have a brain cancer.

Okay. Let’s say I have some type of cancer. Okay. I have brain cancer and, what PMF would you recommend to me and how, what, what would you, how would that process look like if I was a person with cancer and trying to heal that, what would, what would you recommend next?

 

Understanding PEMF for Cancer Treatment

Dr. William Pawluk: All right, well, this is the Beljanski Cancer Conference, so we’re going to get into that.

So what you need to have is the right magnetic field intensity. You have to have the right strength magnetic field that’s going to pass into the body to do the things that you need to do to a cancer in the body. Ideally, in many ways, what you want to do is make the body healthy first. If you make the body healthy, then the body does a lot of its own work.

Now, you don’t have to do the work, the body does the work.

 

Choosing the Right PEMF Device

Dr. William Pawluk: So, you have to have the right piece of equipment. So there’s an example, so you stop right there. There’s an example, there’s four different devices, five different devices right there. And they’re, they’re one among hundreds of devices that you could get.

So you have to know what you’re buying, you have to know the characteristics of the magnetic field. And then you have to know how to use it. And, and how to use it and how long and so on. So you need proper education, not only in terms of getting the right piece of equipment, but in using it in the right way.

Cause if you don’t use it in the right way, you’re not going to get the benefits that you want. And you can spend 5,000 buying a machine. It’s not going to do you any good, fundamentally.

Victor Dwyer: So what would you recommend for me?

Dr. William Pawluk: …is really critical.

Victor Dwyer: Yeah. So what would you recommend for someone that had cancer? Let’s say me. What would you recommend next?

Dr. William Pawluk: Okay, part of that, part of the answer to that question is, “What kind of cancer?”

Victor Dwyer: Brain cancer. Brain cancer.

Dr. William Pawluk: Where is it? Brain cancer. So if you’re talking about breast cancer, so what’s the problem with breast cancer then?

Victor Dwyer: Like I was, I said brain cancer, brain cancer.

Dr. William Pawluk: I’m sorry, brain cancer. Fine, fair enough.

 

The Importance of Magnetic Field Intensity in Cancer Therapy

Dr. William Pawluk: So, A big part of the problem, one of the benefits of magnetic field therapy is that it decreases inflammation. Huge component of the actions of magnetic field is to decrease inflammation. And research has shown us that what we need is about 15 gauss. Remember the earth’s magnetic field is half a gauss.

So you need about 15 gauss at the adenosine receptor. So, the adenosine receptor is one of the anti-inflammatory receptors on the white blood cells of the body. And where are the white blood cells of the body? Everywhere. So you need 15 gauss at the adenosine receptor to optimally stimulate the adenosine receptor to decrease inflammation.

And on my website, I have a blog about adenosine inflammation and pain where you have tables and you have an explanation for why and how. And then what you have to do then is to figure out from there, okay, I need to treat my whole brain. If you need to treat 15 gauss across the brain, there’s another principle of physics called the inverse square law.

Those magnetic fields drop off very rapidly as you move away from the source. of the magnetic field. So you have to calculate the dose of the magnetic field across a brain. Or across a lung, or across a breast, or across a hip, or a liver, or kidneys. Whatever, you have to calculate the dose for delivery.

It’s the same principle that’s used in radiation therapy. When you do radiation therapy, the radiation therapist has to calculate the dose of the radiation that you need to treat deep into the body. And that’s called the inverse square law.

Sylvie Beljanski: Yeah.

Victor Dwyer: Right? Does your device do that automatically or is someone going to have to actually do that calculation?

Dr. William Pawluk: No, not at all. You have to figure out for yourself what strength of magnetic therapy machine you need to treat where you’re trying to treat. So across the skull, you’re going to need generally about 4, 000 gauss to deliver 15 gauss from one side to the other.

All right. So from the tables that give you that information, you don’t have to calculate yourself, there are tables.

Victor Dwyer: Which people would be able to help you get that information,

Dr. William Pawluk: Which people what, I’m sorry?

Victor Dwyer: Which people would be able to help you get that information. How would you know that? Who would you contact to get that information?

Dr. William Pawluk: DrPawlukcom

Victor Dwyer: Okay. Cool. Okay. Got it. Okay.

Dr. William Pawluk: There aren’t a lot of people, there aren’t a lot of people who could give you that information. So we provide those tables on Dr. Pawlukcom and it’s in, it’s in my books as well.

Victor Dwyer: Okay.

 

Personalizing PEMF Therapy for Cancer

Victor Dwyer: So, just so I understand from a, a, a sequence standpoint, first, I need to understand what type of cancer I have.

Okay. And then I say, okay, I have brain cancer. Then next I need, I need to either contact you or contact some type of magnetic therapy specialist to understand what strength of these electromagnetic fields that I need to target in my brain. And then from there, I need to get a device to do this and put it on my brain. Is that correct?

Dr. William Pawluk: Correct. Okay. So now you can buy, buy equipment for yourself. And the problem is that going somewhere for treatment is generally not going to be all that helpful depending on your philosophy. But from my, my perspective of 50 years of practicing medicine, cancer never sleeps. Okay. When you get, when you get, when you remove your cancer, are you done with your cancer or is your cancer done with you?

Sylvie Beljanski: Yeah, and there is also preventive approach also.

Dr. William Pawluk: Exactly. So, Magnetic Field Therapy can be both therapeutic, but it can also be preventative. So, when I treat somebody with cancer, like breast cancer, I’m not only interested in treating the breast cancer itself at the time, but I’m also interested in what happens 15 years later.
Because the breast cancer at the moment is not going to kill you. You’re not going to die from that. What you’re going to die from is the metastatic disease that happens 15 years later. So, It’s folly to think of treating breast cancer as just removing it or just treating it at the moment. You have to include the concept that this is a long term process and that you have to make the adjustments in your life to be able to prevent the future risk of dying from it.

So, that means you’re going to have to do something, not only treat yourself at the moment, but then also treat yourself over time to be able to do the prevention that you need. And, usually, you have your own equipment because going to, going somewhere for treatment doesn’t, gives you a very short term benefit. It’s not a long term benefit. That benefit in days or weeks.

Victor Dwyer: I understand what you said about the inflammation and how the, how it goes in and targets the adenosine receptors and decreases the inflammation to reduce the amount of cancer. What other benefits would it have when it comes down to targeting cancer, either preventative treatments or cancer just any, like, how else would it decrease the cancer as well?

Dr. William Pawluk: So, and that’s a complicated, that’s a good question and it’s a complicated answer. And the reason for that is that magnetic fields in the body have, as I mentioned, at least 25 different actions. One of the actions is to reduce inflammation. Probably the most important action is to reduce inflammation.

And in terms of cancer, one of the other most important answers is oxygen. Delivering oxygen to the tissues. Hypoxia, or low oxygen levels in the tissues, contribute to the growth of cancers. And they contribute to the cancers becoming resistant to therapies. That’s called hypoxia inducible factor. So PEMF therapy, by increasing oxygen delivery into the microenvironment of the cancer where it’s growing, then de, shuts off those mechanisms of the cancer for continuing to grow.

So, oxygenation, anti inflammatory, tissue regeneration, energy, increases in energy and improvements in mitochondrial function, increasing nitric oxide, increasing natural stem cells to repair and regenerate the tissues. So, the, all the list of actions that magnetic fields have are all basically available, bang, as soon as you’re using the magnetic field.

And the body decides from it. which ones it’s going to use to improve its health. So, the body is always trying to rebalance itself. It’s out of balance, it’s trying to rebalance. The magnetic fields help to rebalance.

 

The Synergy of PEMF with Conventional and Alternative Therapies

Sylvie Beljanski: So, a lot of people, generally, who have diagnosed with cancer, they start with conventional treatments, because that’s what the doctor or the hospital immediately recommends.
And then after a while, they see that they are exhausted or they are, by the conventional therapies, and they start looking at something else. How does that work? I mean, your approach with a body which is already exhausted by conventional treatments, are you able to build it back? I mean, to, to its former energy level.

And how does that work with other treatments, like as a conventional treatment, people also continuing their chemotherapies and so on, or moving to non conventional or, let’s say, holistic therapies?
Dr. William Pawluk: Well, one of the basic actions of magnetic fields is to open cell membranes. When you open cell membranes, think about it this way, you’re, you’re throwing the windows and doors open in the house.

So, what happens is the waste in the house, the pollution in the house, clears out. At the same time, you’re bringing new energy into the house, you’re bringing new oxygen into the house, you’re airing the house out. So, that happens in the body, the cells of the body, that’s happening at the same time. Both those actions are happening together at the same time.

If your energy is depleted, if you’re depleted in ATP because your body’s been fighting not only the chemo, not only the surgery, not only the radiation, but also the cancer, then your body needs to build energy. Well, magnetic field therapy increases the energy production of the cell. But you have, but you increase the energy production of the cell, then you’re basically creating a healthier cell, which then becomes more resistant to the harms from all these other therapies.

Alright, so magnetic fields help the body to amplify. Now, if you’re coming to the process very late, if you’re stage four and you’re on death’s door, you’re basically going into hospice, you know, it’s kind of late. Magnetic fields are going to help you to be, to basically feel better temporarily. But ideally you want to start as early as possible in the cancer process.

It’s like anything else, supplements do the same thing. If you’re adding supplements way too late in the process. It’s not going to help a whole lot, because it’s too late. The cells are too damaged, the body’s too damaged, the body’s too depleted. Now magnetic field therapy helps nutrients, helps supplements, helps nutrition all get into the body better, because you open up those cell membranes, so now everything can get into the cell better, and then help the cell to become healthier, and resistant.

So that’s one of the key aspects. Virtually, any kind of therapy that you do, in addition to magnetic field therapy, is made to work better. And the side effects from chemo are reduced. And, in addition to that, research is showing that a lot of the chemo actually is toxic because we give too much. And the reason we give too much, medicine gives too much, is because they don’t know how much to give.

And if you do magnetic field therapy, research shows you can maybe reduce the dose by half. The problem is convincing the oncologist to reduce the dose by half, right? But it doesn’t matter if it’s the same dose and you do magnetic field therapy.

 

The Economic Realities of Cancer Treatment

Sylvie Beljanski: Oncologist is making too much money on, on to listen to that.

Dr. William Pawluk: There are games that are being played with all that. If you go to an academic medical center, they’re going to save their money to do the research drugs. If you go to a community oncologist, they’re going to, they’re going to do the IV therapies because they make more money off the IV therapies. They’re not going to give you the oral therapy.

So it’s a, it’s an economic farce, if you will.

Sylvie Beljanski: Unfortunately, yeah.

Dr. William Pawluk: Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. So you’re probably better off going to a university medical center ‘cause you’re going to get the oral stuff, but then they’re going to try to push you into a trial.

Victor Dwyer: And, so going into that, so, the way I understand it is the benefits of electromagnetic therapy are the reducing inflammation repairing the tissue, and then also reducing, I think it was reducing the oxygen going to the cancer itself.

Dr. William Pawluk: No, increasing the oxygen going to the cancer. What drives cancer is the lack of oxygen, which is why cancers have angiogenesis, why they grow blood vessels. They’re trying to increase their oxygen, their supply of oxygen.

Magnetic field therapy open up, opens up blood vessels. So, it delivers more oxygen, it delivers more nutrients when the blood vessels are open, but it turns off that HIA, HIF in the cancer. It turns it off, so the cancer stops growing. And Russian research has actually shown this with breast cancers, that you can dramatically reduce the cancer size by, just with magnetic therapy by itself.

And they’ve done research before and after chemo, before and after radiation, and before and after surgery. All of these techno, these techniques of dealing with cancer all get better with magnetic field therapy. And there was one…

 

Maximizing the Benefits of PEMF Therapy

Sylvie Beljanski: Have you seen some specific synergy and benefits with some, either some modalities or some nutrients or, or, or some, some things were worked well together with, with what you’re doing specifically well?

Dr. William Pawluk: Yes again, some of the Russian research found that, again, adding magnetic field therapy to radiation makes radiation work better and protects the person. Adding magnetic therapy to oxygen therapy makes that work better, too. Hyperbaric oxygen has a limitation in terms of how much you can deliver in the body, and you have to keep going to a hyperbaric center to get that done.

If you own a magnetic system at home, you’re able to deliver oxygen better into your tissues every day, multiple times a day in fact, right? So, in the long run, it’s self, you’re taking care of yourself better. IV, vitamin C works better. So, antioxidants work better with PEMFs. As I mentioned, nutrition works better with PEMFs. Infrared works better with PEMFs. Red light therapies, laser, all of these things work better with magnetic field therapy.

One of the key reasons magnetic field therapy works so well is it goes all the way through the body. Nothing in the body stops the magnetic field. Even metal in the body bends the magnetic field, doesn’t stop it, it bends it.

So, that’s the key, that’s the key difference between magnetic field therapy and most other therapies. A, you can do it at home, you can do it multiple times a day, and you can combine it with almost anything, right? And doing it every day is really, really, really, really, really, really, really important. Because as I said at the beginning, cancer never sleeps, right?

So, if you do a therapy now, what happens an hour later, when the benefit of that therapy wears off? Now you got a “gap” between the time that you did that therapy and the next time you do it. And we can’t allow gaps. You don’t want to have gaps, especially at the beginning or especially in severe cancer like stage fours or stage threes.

Sylvie Beljanski: Yeah, I believe it’s probably extremely reassuring for people also to know that they have a machine at home and they can take care of themselves every day rather than just, you know, having a visit to an oncologist like every other month. And knowing that you do something for yourself every day is also, I believe, emotionally, very satisfying.

 

Measuring the Impact of PEMF Therapy

Sylvie Beljanski: Do you have any way to measure? I mean, is there any way to measure the, between, I mean, patients doing what using your, your, your machine compared to other, other patients?

Dr. William Pawluk: So, you can measure the effects of magnetic therapy of the body in a lot of different ways. I mean, you can use thermography, you can use heart rate variability studies.

You can do virtually anything that shows how a body is functioning, including biochemistry. So, you can measure biochemical reactions. You can measure C reactive proteins. You can measure the cancer markers. So, you can see the impact of the therapy on these, on these different indicators. So, because it’s basic biology that’s working through a basic biological approach, it’s not a specific approach.
It’s not a specific molecule having a specific mechanism, right? This is more ubiquitous in terms of supporting the body’s function.

Sylvie Beljanski: Okay. So that’s something, I mean, every time you have a blood, blood test, you can see that you are doing better. And that’s also helped the healing process at large.

Dr. William Pawluk: Exactly! If you’re, if you’re engaged in it mentally, psychologically, spiritually, and hopefully, and so on, then yes, that adds to the therapeutic benefit and value, and if you decrease your pain. So, we’re not just treating the cancer, we’re treating the person, pretty much the whole body. So, if you have a pain in your big toe, if you have gout, that’s going to sap your energy, right?

To help you to fight a cancer. If you have a heart disease, it’s going to sap your energy. If you have liver problems, you’re going to sap your energy. So anything that you can do to heal the body, in general, because it’s so ubiquitous, it acts in so many different ways, anything that’s going on in the body is going to benefit from it.

Sylvie Beljanski: Very good.

Victor Dwyer: That’s amazing.

 

Concluding Remarks and Resources

Victor Dwyer: And then, yeah, Dr. Pawluk, thank you so much for your time today. I like, I know we can go on for this for seven more hours. Thank you so much for everything you just said. Please tell the audience how to find more about you, about your book that you have, your website, please tell the audience how to find you.

Dr. William Pawluk: All right, that’s, so several things – number one, again, basic education, because there’s a lot of misinformation in the Internet and usually it’s information, but from people who are selling machines. And very often they’re selling machines that are very, that are inadequate for what they are intended to do.

So, read as much material as you can. Some of the best education that we have is on drpawluk.com. D R P A W L U K dot com And then the two books. If you want the science, you can geek out on the science with ‘Power Tools for Health’. If you just want to know how to use it, you say, I just accept that Dr.
Pawluk knows what he’s talking about with the science. So, then you go to ‘Supercharge Your Health with PEMF Therapy’. On my website as well, I have a lot of education and I have videos, lots of videos. I also have eBooks. And one of my e books is ‘PEMFs and Cancer’. If you want, you can email us at info@drpawluk.com and say, Dr. Pawluk mentioned on this podcast that I can get access to the cancer, ‘PEMFs and Cancer’ eBook. So, the eBook is a big book. It’s got a lot of information in it. And the next option is to get access to the ‘PEMFs and Cancer’ course. So, it’s a three hour course, which is a lot of it is based on the Beljanski presentation I did, but there’s more than that, obviously.

So, there’s a lot of good information, deep information that get, that really educate you on what magnetic fields can do. And it could dispel a lot of the controversy as well. Because again, MD, a researcher, somebody who’s been working with magnetic fields for 30 years. So, I try to, I try to be as science-based as I possibly can to provide you with that information.

So, we’re not guessing it’s not my, and I don’t work with only one magnetic system. If I only sold or work with one magnetic system, I would be wary. But I use whatever is going to work. I find the devices that are going to make the best, do the best for that particular person or that particular situation. And again, all that information is, is, is there.

Sylvie Beljanski: Well, thank you for all those resources. I think everybody will really appreciate to get access to, to your book, absolutely!

Dr. William Pawluk: You’re very welcome.

Victor Dwyer: That’s a whole lot of information. Thank you. Thank you so much, Dr. Pawluk for everything that you’ve given us today.

Dr. William Pawluk: You’re very welcome.

Victor Dwyer: I know the audience will appreciate it.

Thank you everyone for listening in. This is the Beljanski Cancer Talk Show and we’ll catch you next time. Thanks guys.

William Pawluk, MD, MSc – Foremost authority on Pulsed Electromagnetic Field (PEMF) therapy in North America, especially for holistic pain management/healing/regeneration.

• Past holistic: MD, Baltimore
• Past university appointments: Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland
• Training:
  • family medicine/acupuncture/homeopathy/ hypnosis/bodywork/energy medicine/nutrition/functional medicine
  • PEMFs – 30 years
• Owner, www.DrPawluk.com
• Author, most referenced comprehensive book on healing with PEMFs, “Power Tools for Health.” Also, how-to-book, “Supercharge Your Health with PEMF therapy.”
• Published chapters in scientific books, many peer-reviewed articles. More that 100 radio/podcast/summit/TV interviews, and on Dr. Oz. Cohost 2-hour holistic health radio show 10 years.
• ACIM Lifetime Achievement Award 2019 regarding work with PEMFs.
• Hosted “Pain Solution Summit” www.painsolutionsummit.com and “PEMF Healing Summit.”